Restoring an IBM PC XT-286 from 1986

1 maj 2020
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Cleaning, upgrading, and overall reinvigorating a vintage IBM computer system from 1986! The Model 5162 here is a bit of an uncommon beast at this point, combining the classic case design of the XT with the 286 internals of an IBM AT. Let's fix it!
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  • To answer questions about the Hardcard: as expected, it doesn't work. Every single one of them I've come across are in need of various internal repairs. Hopefully I'll get around to fixing mine up someday, but it'll be a time-consuming and fiddly process that I'm not exactly rushing to get involved in, haha.

    LGRLGR6 miesięcy temu
    • Send them to me and I can make a functional unit out of the lot of them.

      JoeL LynchJoeL LynchMiesiąc temu
    • Do you know where I can get a USB external 5.25" floppy drive?

      Hungry GuyHungry GuyMiesiąc temu
    • Clint, please take this advice on old HDDs: Always SpinRite them first thing you do before trying to use them. The imperfections on the disk's surface grow over time and you need to know exactly where they are to make the HDD work correctly. Especially on those really old HDDs that don't have S.M.A.R.T. monitors.

      Natsume-HimeNatsume-Hime3 miesięcy temu
    • @Roland's Recycling Generally speaking, it's because of where the head rests when idle and off with a bit of a remaining charge in them. This happens to a lot of old hard drives too. The heads basically weld themselves in place. The fix is simple: Take the drive out, don't disassemble, take a screwdriver by the shaft, then smack the side of the hard disk drive with the handle of the screwdriver. Not super hard, but firmly. That should dislodge a stuck head and barring situation.

      Natsume-HimeNatsume-Hime3 miesięcy temu
    • I'm guess fixing them would require in depth work like David on 8 bit guy does, test continuity etc?

      killerbee256killerbee2565 miesięcy temu
  • I'm sure one day professors around the world will how LGR's videos as the perfect storytelling: Intro, problem to solve, problem being solved, problem solved, happy image (2 ibm booting up) for the audience to take home. It's just... ahhh wonderful

    Alejandro OrtegaAlejandro Ortega12 godzin temu
  • Shouldn't you have to tell the controller the specifics of the HD with a debug command? As I recall you may need to read the sticker on the drive to see the cylinders and sectors or such and poke that info to the controller with the debug command.. The original controller may actually work.. Sigh.. Mfm, can't say I really miss those days very much. Good on you for spending time with it. Cheers!

    Orlando KaraokeOrlando Karaoke16 godzin temu
  • After all these years we still need to talk about the difference between cleaning and "restoration". Great video though.

    RoomerJRoomerJ2 dni temu
  • Maybe you need an old DOS version of SeaTools to check those disks properly ;). Although I seem to recall Seagate called it something else back when it still supported their MFM disks

    SteelRodentSteelRodent3 dni temu
  • LOL I remember the jet-like sounds when booting up these old machines.

    OhNose NotAgainOhNose NotAgain3 dni temu
  • I'm as old as this computer.

    WhiteTylerPerryWhiteTylerPerry3 dni temu
  • I think I saw a Leisure Suit Larry batch file in there....

    bluphantbluphant7 dni temu
  • It's funny...these were ten a penny back in the day. Now they are rare vintage objects.

    Peter James LedwithPeter James Ledwith13 dni temu
  • I'm not the only one who found the sound of the hard disk chirping and humming oddly satisfying, am I?

    TheEarthrabbitTheEarthrabbit14 dni temu
  • I'm glad that riker and wesley gave it to you ;p Don't let the captain know.

    Mongo CosmoMongo Cosmo14 dni temu
  • i love your mission, restoring old tecnology there is memory , respect for the origins and a real understanding of our world

    Ross DocRoss Doc15 dni temu
  • This was a better computer than the AT, especially with the zero wait state RAM.

    douro20douro2017 dni temu
  • there's something therapeutic (maybe it's just nostalgia) about watching your vdeos. My dad was a small business PC guy back in the late 80s and early 90s. I used to help him build PCs all the time -- as well as working on my own. I remember my custom 286 fondly =).

    tiamat_023tiamat_02317 dni temu
  • I used to have a musical 20Mb hard drive on my Model 30/286. It was much smaller, but it sounded like an electronic organ. It used some interface that was a single, flat, ribbon cable. My favorite DOS was IBM 4.0, because it had DOSSHELL. Compared to the Windows of the time, it started up much faster, had quick navigation, and it was easy to use. It had mouse support, but things were really quick, when you used keyboard shortcuts. Fortunately, it was also a stand alone .EXE, that you could copy from one machine to another. It wasn't dependent on any other files. It even runs under DOSbox, and I've always kept a copy with me.

    Jeremy GeorgiaJeremy Georgia18 dni temu
  • i have a case ALOT like that one, but mine has push button domes on the sides at the front and has a flip top lid i also have a smaller one that only has three 5 inch bays on the front and a 3 inch one that also has the flip top dome button lid

    Quentin TubbQuentin Tubb19 dni temu
  • Sounds like TOS Startrek:)

    Patrick GlaserPatrick Glaser19 dni temu
  • I shoot across to the 8-Bit guy

    Zen4real fight manZen4real fight man20 dni temu
  • Great Work LGR Thank you for Saving the Beast , I remember working on these in the day , Smiles :) QC

    Quaalude CharlieQuaalude Charlie20 dni temu
  • I used to play Wheel of Fortune on our old IBM. Also Jeopardy and Outnumbered. Fun stuff :P

    rm2kmidirm2kmidi20 dni temu
  • Fleblenerp lol

    CN MathiasCN Mathias21 dzień temu
  • Clint, just remember, Seagate ST-225 never dies. The best sounding hard drive ever made, I could fall asleep listening to the sounds one of those make!

    Mike's Mac ShackMike's Mac Shack21 dzień temu
  • Wheel of fortune the benchmark. My ryzen CPU takes 0.000023 seconds to complete. ;D

    Clown WorldClown World22 dni temu
  • ST-225s are the best sounding hard drives ever.

    ScioneerScioneer22 dni temu
  • Oh man, that hard drive chirping takes me back. My very first computer was a PS/2 model 30 with a 20MB HDD, and it made those same noises. Total nostalgia bomb.

    Shayne JohnsonShayne Johnson22 dni temu
  • Pour some eucalyptus oil on that hard drive, that should do the trick.

    Harry S HumanHarry S Human23 dni temu
  • This video reminds me my old PC XT that i had from 1991 to 1998.

    Horacio Del RéHoracio Del RéMiesiąc temu
  • I wonder what would be the most modern graphics card that would work with those dinosaurs.

    WarpRulezWarpRulezMiesiąc temu
  • Tour tour tour

    Fox SkyFox SkyMiesiąc temu
  • it has actual cobwebs xD

    KuangoKuangoMiesiąc temu
  • What was that hard disk checking program (and can it be found on the internet?)

    Stargamer777 !Stargamer777 !Miesiąc temu
  • This video turned into case cleaning porn.

    OmegaDMMOmegaDMMMiesiąc temu
  • I've been binge watching LGR and the 8 bit guys videos for the past week

    GoCruisersGoCruisersMiesiąc temu
  • You're using a 286? Don't make me laugh. Your Windows boots up in, what, a day-and-a-half?

    DragonNexusDragonNexusMiesiąc temu
  • Flight of the Intruder Quote; "The manual says you've got to kick it a couple of times to get the rotors moving again".

    Lander1Lander1Miesiąc temu
  • General failure reading drive C:

    Sarsaparilla SunsetSarsaparilla SunsetMiesiąc temu
  • started with an xt remember when i payed 200 for a 200mb hard drive

    jefft78jefft78Miesiąc temu
  • 17:00 WARNING please cover the "windows" on this EPROM!

    intel386DXintel386DXMiesiąc temu
  • I have a 72mb Seagate drive that looks almost like it's built to fit into this style of case possibly an IBM pc AT it still works

    Calum WardCalum WardMiesiąc temu
  • Oh my goodness, I hate to say it but I do miss the sounds that your machine is making, it reminds me of the old days when computers were very simple. Thanks Clint!

    Raven curse2007Raven curse2007Miesiąc temu
  • Cue 15000 old men who needs to tell us they remember having one.

    Dr. LoveDr. LoveMiesiąc temu
  • Damn Boy I Love Retro Stuff

    Lucky FixLucky FixMiesiąc temu
  • Build quality is super

    Nippy PreetNippy PreetMiesiąc temu
  • this computer was made the same year my nissan stanza was

    KenjiKenjiMiesiąc temu
  • Restore then send it to the museum!

    ngebajakngebajakMiesiąc temu
  • How much does 286 cost this days?

    Retarded_ kid SupertrooperRetarded_ kid Supertrooper2 miesięcy temu
  • Does windows 1.0 work on it?

    EndHunter8833EndHunter88332 miesięcy temu
  • Wow! I set up many here in Brazil!

    Alex BluesAlex Blues2 miesięcy temu
  • Can it run Crysis at decent FPS?

    SevenSixTwo2012SevenSixTwo20122 miesięcy temu
  • What if you get that old monitor and connect it to a windows 10 machine or something

    Ethan RumtiEthan Rumti2 miesięcy temu
  • that is the best hard disk sound ive ever heard

    BlueSpartan 076BlueSpartan 0762 miesięcy temu
  • hey my birthday was on the 29th :)

    BlueSpartan 076BlueSpartan 0762 miesięcy temu
  • IBM would sell a machine with plenty of RAM, disk, and CPU for $X as the lowest priced model, and it would be enough to run pretty much everything you can throw at it. Apple will put out a computer, and the lowest priced item will barely run, as their business model is to entice you to add more RAM, bigger disk, etc.. to jack up the price to ridiculously high levels. IBM was not cheap, but it worked. Apple just fucks you.

    Sergio MartelliSergio Martelli2 miesięcy temu
  • 25:27 That's not a path, it's a highway

    FrikinOSMFrikinOSM2 miesięcy temu
  • That epic transition sound 😅

    Dennis GründigDennis Gründig2 miesięcy temu
  • SO as a note, on a re-watching, I'm seeing NETX, and files suggesting that this was used with a NetWare server of some sort. Curious if there are any interesting bits of NetWare on it as old NetWare isn't super well preserved.

    NCommanderNCommander2 miesięcy temu
  • I regret now throwing all of my older computers years ago. Especially a pentium II IBM desktop and Pentium I tower case. At least I still have a Pentium I case in my parents place :/

    Mohammad ZMohammad Z2 miesięcy temu
  • Did they MSRP for less then the AT? Maybe it was a "current" cheaper alternative to the AT?

    LordMaxinLordMaxin2 miesięcy temu
  • Really brings up the memories.. my first computer but with monochrome screen.. Mother bought it for my 11th or 12th birthday, i remember i couldnt get sleep cause of excitement and in the morning straight from bed switching big red button and browsing through Norton Commander playing games like Prince of Persia, Eagle, Street Rod and others. Eventually i start to neglect school and mother locked PC lock and hide keys but i found the way to open it with the casing of a pen. Tnx Clint for your effort reviving those childhood feelings.

    SinbadSinbad2 miesięcy temu
  • I find your lack of prompt=$p$g disturbing

    MythrylMythryl2 miesięcy temu
  • It's like ASMR. Sit back relax and watch LGR restore and old computer.

    SmorfnimdaSmorfnimda2 miesięcy temu
  • Should be studying for my LSAT or playing a video game, but instead I’m here watching this guy take a part a computer from 1981 and for some reason feels like it’s what I should be doing.

    RawReviewsRawReviews2 miesięcy temu
  • now we need lanparty on them

    wytrzeszcz wytrzeszczwytrzeszcz wytrzeszcz3 miesięcy temu
  • Watching you sponge those down was the highlight of my day :-)

    johnkb79johnkb793 miesięcy temu
  • mr IBM guy

    Russian KidRussian Kid3 miesięcy temu
  • A good trick for getting sticky off grab some really old stale bread past 2yearold then rub your sticky

    Julie MaloneyJulie Maloney3 miesięcy temu
  • When starting them both: "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to American Airlines flight 5162 to Nostalgialand. Please get comfy and don't forget to enjoy the sounds."

    VollezarVollezar3 miesięcy temu
  • there was an old low level format in hdd controller bios but not all cards had it. go to debug type g=c800:5

    mindvoidmindvoid3 miesięcy temu
  • My first computer. If only my mom held out for the 386 cause that's when gaming got good on pc in my eyes

    Brio DashBrio Dash3 miesięcy temu
  • This is another key to the meaning of life

    Tyler MountainTyler Mountain3 miesięcy temu
  • There is a discord notification sound in the startup noise, you may want to re-record that.

    ThatOneDarnRaiderThatOneDarnRaider3 miesięcy temu
  • I like the iconic look of the IBM desktops. 😁

    Bob3519Bob35193 miesięcy temu
  • I don’t paid $700 dollars for that computer for that money i can get a new one

    thecubanmanthecubanman3 miesięcy temu
  • I had a similar clone system from TI in the early 90s. It was a hand me down but I loved it. Taught myself bad c programming on it 😁

    qbradqqbradq3 miesięcy temu
  • Kind of makes me want to get to grips with my DEC Alphastation 255/233, a couple of capacitors blew about 4 months ago so seeing you fettle with those IBM machines has made my mind up, so I will fix it after all by taking it to the electrical engineer who fixed the hard drive header on my Amiga 1200. If I do it I'll probably do more harm than good so I'll bite the bullet and let him do it. Nice video really do enjoy this type of content.

    Retro TechnologyRetro Technology3 miesięcy temu
  • Just love the startup noices

    Jörgen KarlssonJörgen Karlsson3 miesięcy temu
  • Having been forced to use these machines as I lived through the era where they were new and current.. This is PTSD inducing lol. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

    John SkidmoreJohn Skidmore3 miesięcy temu
  • Amazing what White people invented..

    Mack MMack M4 miesięcy temu
  • 32:54 - SOOO satisfying

    S1m0neS1m0ne4 miesięcy temu
  • i want a chorus of 10000 ibms all booting

    James Irwin-McConnellJames Irwin-McConnell4 miesięcy temu
  • Man @6:27 i was thought its an SSD from 1986 lol :DDDDD but that can't be true.

    pixlpixl4 miesięcy temu
  • I'm so glad your channel exists. Thank you for your videos

    FritoFrito4 miesięcy temu
    • Thank you for watching!

      LGRLGR4 miesięcy temu
  • goin a bit grey there old boy

    Major DisasterMajor Disaster4 miesięcy temu
  • Retro tech PLworld truly is HGTV for nerds.

    GreyRabbitMediaGreyRabbitMedia4 miesięcy temu
  • Hey LGR! Big fan here. I'm actually about to own a functional 5162 myself! ($200 and some computer parts I got for free previously!) However, I'm having issues figuring out what keyboard I'll need. I've heard online that this model uses the din 5 AT format, is this correct? I've been watching your videos for a very long time, and I'm happy to say you inspired me to pursue a collection of vintage IBM's myself. Keep being awesome!

    Najila42Najila424 miesięcy temu
    • @Stormcrash Thank you, I'm also hoping I'll be able to install a 1.44mb floppy diskette drive which will make transfering data/programs so much easier. Other videos of this particular computer show that it's very possible

      Najila42Najila424 miesięcy temu
    • @Najila42 That's a neat workaround for not having the IBM diagnostics disk. Once you get DOS you can use Gsetup like LGR did for easier changes. Glad you got it sorted and working

      StormcrashStormcrash4 miesięcy temu
    • @Stormcrash Thank you for the reply, I have gotten my answer. It's the AT format, I've actually gotten it running! The battery was dead and all the settings were cleared, but I found a solution. There is this program where you tell it what the specs of the system are, and it will give you BASIC codes to input in the system to change the settings. It was so worth it, I've got a PC DOS version 6 disk on the way!

      Najila42Najila424 miesięcy temu
    • Just going off appearances in this video, LGR looks to be using using a 5pin AT model M that came new with his 5170 AT during the startup and testing, and a second stock model M (AT) during the side by side. Don't know if All XT 286s are the same (seems like they are) but you could grab a cheap PS/2 keyboard and a passive ps/2 to 5pin din converter and give it a go at no real risk to the system

      StormcrashStormcrash4 miesięcy temu
  • I love the idea of my PC being Made in Scotland.

    Jed AndersonJed Anderson4 miesięcy temu
  • The first computer my parents ever got was some 286 variant running DOS in a monochromatic light blue tone. My parents got us one game on it that was a sort of education maze game with caterpillars called "Think Quick!" by The Learning Company. It was my only PC game until we finally upgraded to a Pentium in 1996 when I was 13. It was a quantum leap in computing power. Windows 95 seemed like some sort of futuristic amazement.

    Jed AndersonJed Anderson4 miesięcy temu
  • A1 -------------- B

    SpaceMonkeyJJSpaceMonkeyJJ4 miesięcy temu
  • I did this, specifically an XT 286, with a dumpster dive in 1996. I think it had a working 10 GB hard drive! My wife made me throw out the 4 or so restored pre-386 PCs I had. It makes me cry to think how valuable they might be now.

    Cuvtixo DCuvtixo D4 miesięcy temu
  • Holy crap I had never heard of an XT with 286. EDIT: AND VGA! Did they come with an XT keyboard?

    castirondudecastirondude4 miesięcy temu
  • You are an artist!!!

    The Shadow Of DeathThe Shadow Of Death4 miesięcy temu
  • beautiful startup sounds. the floppy sound especially gave me huge nostalgia.

    JebanisaJebanisa4 miesięcy temu
  • I love the sound of the old MFM and RLL hard drives

    Lloyd SpoonerLloyd Spooner4 miesięcy temu
  • For computers that were in an 80's & '90's office full of smokers, they are surprisingly non yellow

    YAUUNYAUUN4 miesięcy temu
  • These days, when I do restore a pc, I just stick with dos 6.22 / win 3.11. Don't really see a reason to use older versions TBH.

    harshbarjharshbarj4 miesięcy temu
  • 37:00 Martin Luther King?

    nygiantsfan6nygiantsfan64 miesięcy temu
  • Ah, the sounds of an old IBM booting, like an A320 spooling up.

    Nicholas DalzellNicholas Dalzell4 miesięcy temu
  • These retro restoration video's are cathartic, thank you.

    DannDann4 miesięcy temu
  • Oh my- It's the old LGR Foods intro music. What happened to it?

    Peeps40836Peeps408364 miesięcy temu
    • LGR Ah, I see. Oh well. At least the current one is still good.

      Peeps40836Peeps408364 miesięcy temu
    • Copyright issues.

      LGRLGR4 miesięcy temu
  • @LGR The subtitles are fantastic “Chill assembly music” “whirs loudly to life” great stuff!

    Johnny LochsJohnny Lochs4 miesięcy temu